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Post by johnreilly on Aug 8, 2010 5:08:52 GMT -5
I chose to do a tutorial on making a watch because I could cut it down into little segments, the first stage is to make a bracelet. Hopefully the screengrabs will be self explanitary, please feel free to get in touch with me if there is something you'd like me to explain in more detail. Attachments:
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Post by johnreilly on Aug 8, 2010 5:09:24 GMT -5
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Post by johnreilly on Aug 8, 2010 5:09:45 GMT -5
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Post by johnreilly on Aug 8, 2010 5:10:08 GMT -5
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Post by johnreilly on Aug 8, 2010 5:10:30 GMT -5
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Post by johnreilly on Aug 8, 2010 5:10:52 GMT -5
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Post by johnreilly on Aug 8, 2010 5:11:14 GMT -5
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Post by johnreilly on Aug 8, 2010 5:11:34 GMT -5
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Post by SSAfam1 on Aug 8, 2010 8:01:41 GMT -5
Thank you very much, Jon. I did a quick read-through and it seems easy enough. I'll be following this tutorial today. Looks like a great way to do a zipper too. Sweet! Thanks again.
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Post by johnreilly on Aug 8, 2010 11:49:36 GMT -5
Thanks SSAam1, here's version 2, all I did to make the spacing between the links smaller was to decrease the size of the loop. You're right, this can also be used when you need something evenly spaced, like zips and necklaces etc. One thing to watch out for when doing this type of operation, Hex sometimes adds an extra part to the loop, it also leaves a link out if you use the bend tool. Next I'll look at turning the bracelet into a watch. Attachments:
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Post by SSAfam1 on Aug 8, 2010 12:26:37 GMT -5
I'm lost on this step. The spacing needs adjusting so we're duplicating all three and moving it into place or are we making the links bigger? It seems "adjusting" was making the one in the middle wider. And what is the importance of deleting "originals"?
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Post by SSAfam1 on Aug 8, 2010 12:45:39 GMT -5
Am not seeing the "scaling" and "rotation" under Copy on Support. Attachments:
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Post by johnreilly on Aug 8, 2010 12:51:25 GMT -5
Hi SSAfam1, the initial link is made up of 3 parts, making a duplicate allows you to change the original and the duplicate. In step 3 I am making the middle one wider and moving the small ones across to decrease the gap where the centre ones will be - forward planning.
You have to delete the duplicate (keep the original) because the final stage is to use Copy On Support, what this does is put a link on each point of the path (circle).
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Post by johnreilly on Aug 8, 2010 13:13:32 GMT -5
Part 8. Scale and position - When the braclet is finished, the shape will be same as the characters wrist shape (coz the loop was taken from it) when you use the bend tool it usually changes the size so you need to place it on his/her wrist and rotate it in the right direction and scale to fit. The reason we rotate the loop in the first place is because Hex works better if you bend something on a straight view (top, front etc) Edit, sorry I looked at my screen grab and only saw the note I made. I have not come across this with Hex 2.5.05 - which version are you using ? When things go wrong for me I reset the Preferences (Edit Menu) Attachments:
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Post by SSAfam1 on Aug 8, 2010 13:13:59 GMT -5
Part 8. Scale and position - When the braclet is finished, the shape will be same as the characters wrist shape (coz the loop was taken from it) when you use the bend tool it usually changes the size so you need to place it on his/her wrist and rotate it in the right direction and scale to fit. The reason we rotate the loop in the first place is because Hex works better if you bend something on a straight view (top, front etc) I was saying I don't see the scale and rotation under properties of copy on support. Your scaling is 1 and rotation 0...I wanted to make sure mine was the same.
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Post by SSAfam1 on Aug 8, 2010 13:17:59 GMT -5
Part 8. Scale and position - When the braclet is finished, the shape will be same as the characters wrist shape (coz the loop was taken from it) when you use the bend tool it usually changes the size so you need to place it on his/her wrist and rotate it in the right direction and scale to fit. The reason we rotate the loop in the first place is because Hex works better if you bend something on a straight view (top, front etc) Edit, sorry I looked at my screen grab and only saw the note I made. I have not come across this with Hex 2.5.05 - which version are you using ? When things go wrong for me I reset the Preferences (Edit Menu) 2.5 I recently resetted my preference but I'll do it again. Let me see...
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Post by SSAfam1 on Aug 8, 2010 13:21:49 GMT -5
Hmm still not there...
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Post by johnreilly on Aug 8, 2010 13:31:43 GMT -5
SSafam1 - is that 2.5.01 (I think its .01) or 2.5.05 ?
If you are not using 2.5.05 you can get it by resetting it in your account at Daz.
I find it a lot more stable than the version I had before, it only plays up when I do something silly like smoothing/unsmoothing every 5 minutes or adding way too much smoothing in one go.
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Post by SSAfam1 on Aug 8, 2010 13:49:43 GMT -5
SSafam1 - is that 2.5.01 (I think its .01) or 2.5.05 ? If you are not using 2.5.05 you can get it by resetting it in your account at Daz. I find it a lot more stable than the version I had before, it only plays up when I do something silly like smoothing/unsmoothing every 5 minutes or adding way too much smoothing in one go. 2.5.05
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Post by johnreilly on Aug 8, 2010 14:02:36 GMT -5
Sorry, apart from saying save what you've done and do a re-boot I do not know what to say.
Normally I do not rotate or scale when doing this type of project, I usually work that out before I get to that stage (hence the duplicate part).
Back to the bug - You could try reporting it at Daz, but at the moment I do not think its worth it. You could ask in the Hex forum if anyone knows of an answer, but I've never come across it.
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Post by SSAfam1 on Aug 8, 2010 14:35:32 GMT -5
Sorry, apart from saying save what you've done and do a re-boot I do not know what to say. Normally I do not rotate or scale when doing this type of project, I usually work that out before I get to that stage (hence the duplicate part). Back to the bug - You could try reporting it at Daz, but at the moment I do not think its worth it. You could ask in the Hex forum if anyone knows of an answer, but I've never come across it. Ok will ask in the forums. Will let you know what they say.
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Post by heddheld on Aug 8, 2010 16:19:56 GMT -5
last I looked in Daz u was still having this prob
with link selected copy on suport then click on curve (make sure ur on F1) the group will be made and the scale etc controls will show up ok
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Post by SSAfam1 on Aug 8, 2010 16:23:21 GMT -5
last I looked in Daz u was still having this prob with link selected copy on suport then click on curve (make sure ur on F1) the group will be made and the scale etc controls will show up ok I was highlighting the curve in the scene try instead of literally clicking on it. Oops. Attachments:
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Post by johnreilly on Aug 8, 2010 16:40:22 GMT -5
Hi SSAfam1, nice piece of jewelery you got there Have a look at the orientation, you have 5 different ways to project the links. Option 2 worked for me, but it may be different for you.
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Post by SSAfam1 on Aug 8, 2010 17:28:11 GMT -5
Copy on Support hates me. None of the 5 options give me the look I want. Attachments:
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Post by SSAfam1 on Aug 8, 2010 17:33:01 GMT -5
Works with the sphere... Attachments:
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Post by heddheld on Aug 9, 2010 0:39:12 GMT -5
try changing the orientation of the link relative to the curve
or set a "centre" on the link (using the starshape on the options panel tip holding shift will snap it to a point on link so add one if u need to)
cant say I ever had none of the 5 projections work so I'm guessing its the orientation in this case I tend to "line" things up out of habit
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Post by johnreilly on Aug 9, 2010 11:34:54 GMT -5
I think Heddheld is right, try laying the circle flat on the ground plane.
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Post by johnreilly on Aug 9, 2010 14:15:04 GMT -5
I video captured making the bracelet, as the size was okay it did not need altering. Deliberately made a few mistakes at the end LOL www.vimeo.com/14007053
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Post by SSAfam1 on Aug 9, 2010 16:25:13 GMT -5
Thanks guys. I'll try this again.
Special thanks for the video, John.
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